Hello, I'm trying to understand the different strategies but this one has no documentation. Can someone give a brief explanation of what this strategy consists of?
The solver cannot proceed further even with all strategies enabled.
Consider the cage starting at d5 and the 1-cell pseudo-cage b5; the cage at d5 cannot be 189 because that would leave b5 empty. Solution is straightforward if the 1's are removed from cage d5.
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... by: JohnNoneDoe
Tuesday 25-Jun-2019
Here is another board which thwarts the solver.
There is a Killer Sudoku board I would like you to look at
Click on this link: http://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=112212212223313412112213413113313443124412241322313311312312211212313322214412211,060012004508000812090009000015270000240017000000000013000003000000000000002706000013000022140000170006000000001600000013000000080000000009001300000012000009001200
The solver fails but the puzzle is easily solved using cage comparison.
The 12-in-2 cage at ab9 must be 9,3 or 8,4. Thus the 8-in-3 cage at abc8 cannot be 1,3,4; it must be 1,2,5 and the solution is straightforward
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... by: JohnNoneDoe
Friday 16-Mar-2018
There is a Killer Sudoku board I would like you to look at
Click on this link: http://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=112212211231111123233444223133121221122121331212121312212312312414312414444414444,080015002507001300062300000000002014000000190000000000080000151317000011002200000000200000131700000000001703000000091609000000270000000000380000000000000000000000
The solver fails on this board. It can be easily solved using what I think is an application of cage comparison. The 13-in-2 cage at a78 cannot contain 6,7 because of the 15-in-2 cage at a34. Thus the 5 cell innie in box 3 summing to 45-13-14=18 must contain a 7, 18-in-5 is 12357.
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... by: JohnNoneDoe
Thursday 19-Jan-2017
Below is a board that thwarts the solver.
There is a Killer Sudoku board I would like you to look at
Click on this link: http://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=112212211213313312244212442114232411112131211232121232231121132132232231111333111,190009001808001700100006000012000005001500070006220000200000001100002100000015270018070000051100000600001814000000000000000000190009002511000014000000000000000000
The solution is straightforward when one notes the hidden pair 1,4 in 5hj and 5fg which leads to a hidden pair 8,9 in 5abc and 6b. I think think this observation would be a result of what I think of as cage comparison.
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... by: JohnNoneDoe
Thursday 10-Nov-2016
I am looking forward to the cage comparison documentation. I assume it covers such things as 5 in 2 and 6 in 2 in the same unit, seems very powerful.
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... by: Thinkist
Monday 23-Apr-2012
If I'm understanding correctly, this strategy is the exact same as Killer Combinations (hard).
Also, the X-Wing strategies and those below it are useless (or at least really rare). Same for KenKen and KenDoku.
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... by: Ahydul
... by: JohnNoneDoe
Original killer sudoku:
https://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=121221121121334421244441221222121334333124444222121224233331331121224431121331131,0808100700130024130000001700060000001924000000040000000000001815001300261600000000000000001900000000061300000026000
00000140019080807120017000000000000030012000000
Using only strategies 7 and 15 the solver produces:
https://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=121221121121334421244441221222121334333124444222121224233331331121224431121331131,080810070013002413000000170006000000192400000004000000000000181500130026160000000000000000190000000006130000002600000000140019080807120017000000000000030012000000
The solver cannot proceed further even with all strategies enabled.
Consider the cage starting at d5 and the 1-cell pseudo-cage b5; the cage at d5 cannot be 189 because that would leave b5 empty. Solution is straightforward if the 1's are removed from cage d5.
... by: JohnNoneDoe
There is a Killer Sudoku board I would like you to look at
Click on this link:
http://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=112212212223313412112213413113313443124412241322313311312312211212313322214412211,060012004508000812090009000015270000240017000000000013000003000000000000002706000013000022140000170006000000001600000013000000080000000009001300000012000009001200
The solver fails but the puzzle is easily solved using cage comparison.
The 12-in-2 cage at ab9 must be 9,3 or 8,4. Thus the 8-in-3 cage at abc8 cannot be 1,3,4; it must be 1,2,5 and the solution is straightforward
... by: JohnNoneDoe
Click on this link:
http://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=112212211231111123233444223133121221122121331212121312212312312414312414444414444,080015002507001300062300000000002014000000190000000000080000151317000011002200000000200000131700000000001703000000091609000000270000000000380000000000000000000000
The solver fails on this board. It can be easily solved using what I think is an application of cage comparison. The 13-in-2 cage at a78 cannot contain 6,7 because of the 15-in-2 cage at a34. Thus the 5 cell innie in box 3 summing to 45-13-14=18 must contain a 7, 18-in-5 is 12357.
... by: JohnNoneDoe
There is a Killer Sudoku board I would like you to look at
Click on this link:
http://www.sudokuwiki.org/killersudoku.htm?bd=112212211213313312244212442114232411112131211232121232231121132132232231111333111,190009001808001700100006000012000005001500070006220000200000001100002100000015270018070000051100000600001814000000000000000000190009002511000014000000000000000000
The solution is straightforward when one notes the hidden pair 1,4 in 5hj and 5fg which leads to a hidden pair 8,9 in 5abc and 6b. I think think this observation would be a result of what I think of as cage comparison.
... by: JohnNoneDoe
... by: Thinkist
Also, the X-Wing strategies and those below it are useless (or at least really rare). Same for KenKen and KenDoku.